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WLC 2023 : ROUND 13: 2023 Feb 15
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NN
2023-02-12 02:20:27 UTC
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RANDOM : [15, 7, 26, 13, 20, 14, 41, 40, 8, 42, 49, 51, 2, 53, 56, 21, 17, 31, 37, 36, 57, 30, 24, 4]

NIGEL : [7, 26, 13, 20, 14, 41, 40, 8, 42, 49, 51, 2, 53, 56, 21, 17, 31, 37, 36, 57, 30, 24, 4, 15]
NN
2023-02-12 11:58:49 UTC
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[7, 58, 8, 55, 47, 57, 1, 21, 40, 27, 52, 42, 44, 39, 11, 33, 15, 6, 35, 36, 19, 25, 14, 23]
Jerome Fandor
2023-02-12 14:07:16 UTC
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Post by NN
RANDOM : [15, 7, 26, 13, 20, 14, 41, 40, 8, 42, 49, 51, 2, 53, 56, 21, 17,
31, 37, 36, 57, 30, 24, 4]
NIGEL : [7, 26, 13, 20, 14, 41, 40, 8, 42, 49, 51, 2, 53, 56, 21, 17, 31,
37, 36, 57, 30, 24, 4, 15]
Cheers NN.

I'll submit all the entries on one email

Elton:
4 32 9 54 16 44 36 30 48 49 22 19 45 24 14 20 8 21 18 7 11 6 1 39

Jerome:
19 3 53 37 1 47 55 31 43 41 13 8 40 5 23 59 17 35 29 34 21 11 2 7

Jinks
37 3 30 25 59 53 42 2 31 58 46 13 55 26 29 33 27 20 16 28 47 57 56 34

:-)
Jerome
王乾懿 Wang Qianyi (Nan)
2023-02-15 15:52:00 UTC
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Nan
19 7 3 8 53 1 37 21 11 47 55 31 43 41 40 13 23 35 5 59 17 29 34 2
Leela
19 7 58 8 1 55 21 47 11 57 44 40 36 27 39 23 14 35 6 52 42 33 15 25
Alphazero
19 4 7 32 8 9 1 54 21 16 11 44 36 30 48 49 39 14 6 22 45 24 20 18

Nan ;-(
NN
2023-02-16 00:43:55 UTC
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Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14


RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------



NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316



Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
王乾懿 Wang Qianyi (Nan)
2023-02-16 00:59:11 UTC
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As I assumed, it was a ;-( result.
Nan
王乾懿 Wang Qianyi (Nan)
2023-02-16 01:43:40 UTC
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The subjective variable is a common mistake humans make when forecasting. In the event that a law is intentionally changed by a higher civilization of the universe to a certain established law, it will have a profound effect on the universe matter at the subjective level, resulting in the collapse of a civilization. Consequently, I speculate that the random prediction is not the original specific law of the universe, but rather a cover that has been processed and altered to confuse lower civilizations. Consequently, neither macro- nor micro-level breakthroughs have been achieved.
Nan
Marmaduke Jinks
2023-02-16 06:18:48 UTC
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Post by NN
Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14
RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------
NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316
Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
Cheers :-)

I think you're just clear enough in the lead to hold on.

MJ
NN
2023-02-16 11:31:58 UTC
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Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14
RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------
NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316
Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
Cheers :-)
I think you're just clear enough in the lead to hold on.
MJ
You are right. My early lead has helped me stay ahead.
However there's still 7 draws and I cant get complacent.
Marmaduke Jinks
2023-02-16 14:38:47 UTC
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Post by NN
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14
RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------
NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316
Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
Cheers :-)
I think you're just clear enough in the lead to hold on.
MJ
You are right. My early lead has helped me stay ahead.
However there's still 7 draws and I cant get complacent.
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)

MJ
王乾懿 Wang Qianyi (Nan)
2023-02-17 12:23:14 UTC
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在 2023年2月16日星期四 UTC+8 22:39:02,<Marmaduke Jinks> 写道:
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Post by NN
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14
RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------
NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316
Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
Cheers :-)
I think you're just clear enough in the lead to hold on.
MJ
You are right. My early lead has helped me stay ahead.
However there's still 7 draws and I cant get complacent.
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)
MJ
There are tricks to beat anyone. The year I got a 100 score, Random beat me in round 20 as well by using my round 19's numbers.
Nan
Marmaduke Jinks
2023-02-17 12:38:33 UTC
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Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Post by NN
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
Result = [10, 20, 34, 42, 50, 56] + bonus= 14
RANDOM caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 45 [20, 15, 10]
NIGEL caught: {56, 42, 20} +b ==> score: 48 [21, 16, 11]
NN caught: {42} +b ==> score: 13 [13]
Nan caught: {34} ==> score: 2 [2]
Leela caught: {42} +b ==> score: 4 [4]
Alphazero caught: {20} +b ==> score: 2 [2]
Elton caught: {20} +b ==> score: 9 [9]
Jerome caught: {34} ==> score: 5 [5]
Jinks caught: {56, 34, 42, 20} ==> score: 28 [18, 7, 2, 1]
--------------------
NN [23, 59, 72, 79, 28, 40, 45, 0, 9, 52, 40, 14, 13] = 474
Jinks [39, 11, 12, 54, 39, 68, 59, 51, 21, 13, 21, 21, 28] = 437
Random [28, 14, 47, 67, 31, 35, 43, 40, 40, 7, 22, 2, 45] = 421
Jerome [23, 10, 2, 24, 37, 29, 37, 56, 57, 48, 28, 60, 5] = 416
Nan [36, 18, 33, 55, 24, 38, 61, 32, 26, 25, 31, 19, 2] = 400
Nigel [32, 17, 51, 46, 10, 39, 46, 43, 19, 8, 24, 3, 48] = 386
Leela [28, 4, 43, 30, 19, 48, 64, 30, 20, 22, 33, 19, 4] = 364
Elton [56, 51, 15, 23, 12, 38, 18, 6, 25, 17, 17, 51, 9] = 338
Alphazero [29, 1, 16, 49, 24, 20, 62, 29, 15, 20, 30, 19, 2] = 316
Well done to Random and Nigel. Finally good news
Good catch of 4 Jinks
Cheers :-)
I think you're just clear enough in the lead to hold on.
MJ
You are right. My early lead has helped me stay ahead.
However there's still 7 draws and I cant get complacent.
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)
MJ
There are tricks to beat anyone. The year I got a 100 score, Random beat me
in round 20 as well by using my round 19's numbers.
Nan

~~~

So Random was perhaps not as Random as we might have thought ;-)

I've sometimes had the situation where last time's numbers scored higher.
But I don't record that just observe it.

MJ
nigel
2023-02-20 12:42:24 UTC
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Post by Marmaduke Jinks
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)
MJ
Would it have made any difference if you got a heroin-chic zero?
王乾懿 Wang Qianyi (Nan)
2023-02-20 15:55:51 UTC
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在 2023年2月20日星期一 UTC+8 20:42:29,<nigel> 写道:
Post by nigel
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)
MJ
Would it have made any difference if you got a heroin-chic zero?
This probability is very small, since if your performance in the last few rounds is likely to be better than other predictors, your performance in the next round will not be very bad, and the probability of getting 0 is very small. The assumption below is the same as the one below. In the case of N groups of 24 numbers selected at random, the seed group that performed better in the previous round will also perform better in the next round. Therefore, many predictors tend to prefer the numbers they selected in the previous round. In the event that you are aware ahead of time that the random numbers are not very random, following the random numbers will be a much more logical decision. A minor adjustment could be made to the order in which the random numbers are generated, to achieve a better result.
Nan
Marmaduke Jinks
2023-02-21 08:54:30 UTC
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Post by nigel
Post by Marmaduke Jinks
I remember the year I was leading at the end of week 19. Then got a big fat
zero in week 20 and Nan beat me. ;-)
MJ
Would it have made any difference if you got a heroin-chic zero?
This probability is very small, since if your performance in the last few
rounds is likely to be better than other predictors, your performance in the
next round will not be very bad, and the probability of getting 0 is very
small. The assumption below is the same as the one below. In the case of N
groups of 24 numbers selected at random, the seed group that performed
better in the previous round will also perform better in the next round.
Therefore, many predictors tend to prefer the numbers they selected in the
previous round. In the event that you are aware ahead of time that the
random numbers are not very random, following the random numbers will be a
much more logical decision. A minor adjustment could be made to the order in
which the random numbers are generated, to achieve a better result.
Nan

~~~

That's exactly what I was thinking..as an answer to a "heroin-chic zero" .
;-)

MJ

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