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Pick 5 wheel
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c
2008-02-12 18:10:49 UTC
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A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has
it could they please repost it?

Thanks
Chris
ecneps
2008-02-16 13:38:13 UTC
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Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Robert Perkis
2008-02-17 06:02:04 UTC
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Post by ecneps
Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Once you understand how these minimal wheels are made you
won't want to use the Mersey World wheel to play lotto.

1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49

The wheel is made by first making a 2if2of6in14 number
wheel in 7 lines. A second wheel of the same is made
by transposing the numbers from 01-14 to 15-28 so we
have two 2if2 wheels back to back that equal 2if3 when
combined. Then we make a 2if4of6in21 numbers 5 lines.

The idea is if 2 numbers don't land among the first
14 or the second 14 or 3 among the first 28 then 4
must land among the final 21 numbers.

As you can see there is no inter-connectivity between
these sub-wheels meaning they are stand alone. If you
wouldn't play these wheels independently due to the
low odds of all the winning numbers falling on only
one of these wheels, they you wouldn't want to play
them in combination either.

Here is a 100% 2if6in49numbers19lines without being
split into three pieces. Simply exchange my place
holder pointer numbers with your best picks.

1 7 8 14 32 33
1 7 9 14 28 47
2 15 18 34 38 45
2 17 20 21 22 38
3 11 25 27 29 42
3 12 24 25 36 40
3 25 30 31 37 39
4 5 13 15 16 48
4 15 21 35 46 48
5 13 16 21 35 46
6 10 23 26 41 44
6 19 23 41 43 49
8 9 28 32 33 47
10 19 26 43 44 49
11 12 24 27 31 39
11 27 30 36 37 40
12 24 29 30 37 42
17 18 20 22 34 45
29 31 36 39 40 42
end 19 lines 100% 2if6 coverage
Good luck to you.

Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/
s***@gmx.de
2008-02-17 10:29:47 UTC
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Hi Robert,

please note, the request of Chris is a pick 5 wheel with a 2 number
guarantee and not
a pick 6 wheel..
At a pick 5 wheel he can add a banker number for a pick 6 game or play
a pick 5 game.

Chris didn't say with how much number he will play and which game.
Here we need more input.

Assuming he will play a pick 6 game with a banker number, with a wheel
with 18 lines and
a 2 number guarantee:

then he will need a 2 if 5 guarantee because the 6th winning number
should be the banker number.
I suggest then the wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18 from here: http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de
http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de/systeme,5,5205,en.htm, the best
online database for lottery wheels.

Here is my own wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18, generated with Covermaster
within 5 minutes:

1 3 10 30 32
1 26 27 31 32
1 29 32 33 34
2 7 8 9 10
2 8 12 13 15
3 10 26 27 29
3 10 31 33 34
4 6 14 19 25
4 14 17 18 20
5 11 16 21 23
5 11 22 24 28
6 13 17 18 20
7 9 12 13 15
10 26 29 30 31
13 16 21 23 28
16 21 22 23 24
17 18 19 20 25
26 27 30 33 34

Regards and best luck, Manfred
Post by Robert Perkis
Post by ecneps
Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Once you understand how these minimal wheels are made you
won't want to use the Mersey World wheel to play lotto.
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
The wheel is made by first making a 2if2of6in14 number
wheel in 7 lines. A second wheel of the same is made
by transposing the numbers from 01-14 to 15-28 so we
have two 2if2 wheels back to back that equal 2if3 when
combined. Then we make a 2if4of6in21 numbers 5 lines.
The idea is if 2 numbers don't land among the first
14 or the second 14 or 3 among the first 28 then 4
must land among the final 21 numbers.
As you can see there is no inter-connectivity between
these sub-wheels meaning they are stand alone. If you
wouldn't play these wheels independently due to the
low odds of all the winning numbers falling on only
one of these wheels, they you wouldn't want to play
them in combination either.
Here is a 100% 2if6in49numbers19lines without being
split into three pieces. Simply exchange my place
holder pointer numbers with your best picks.
1 7 8 14 32 33
1 7 9 14 28 47
2 15 18 34 38 45
2 17 20 21 22 38
3 11 25 27 29 42
3 12 24 25 36 40
3 25 30 31 37 39
4 5 13 15 16 48
4 15 21 35 46 48
5 13 16 21 35 46
6 10 23 26 41 44
6 19 23 41 43 49
8 9 28 32 33 47
10 19 26 43 44 49
11 12 24 27 31 39
11 27 30 36 37 40
12 24 29 30 37 42
17 18 20 22 34 45
29 31 36 39 40 42
end 19 lines 100% 2if6 coverage
Good luck to you.
Robert Perkis /http://www.lotto-logix.com/
c
2008-02-17 19:36:06 UTC
Permalink
Thanks everyone for your help. The 2 games I am interested in are 5 of
39 and 6 of 39 (WI Supercash and MI Fantasy 5). I'm very noobie when it
comes to wheeling and wish I understood it as much as some of the people
here. I usually play based on hot and cold numbers, etc. Of the 2 games,
Supercash has been luckier for me, having hit 5 of 6 twice so far. I
only play Fantasy 5 when the Jackpot gets around $300K or higher.

Anyway the 19 line wheel is great for Supercash, and I thank you for
that, but I was looking for something similar for the pick 5 game.

Chris
Post by s***@gmx.de
Hi Robert,
please note, the request of Chris is a pick 5 wheel with a 2 number
guarantee and not
a pick 6 wheel..
At a pick 5 wheel he can add a banker number for a pick 6 game or play
a pick 5 game.
Chris didn't say with how much number he will play and which game.
Here we need more input.
Assuming he will play a pick 6 game with a banker number, with a wheel
with 18 lines and
then he will need a 2 if 5 guarantee because the 6th winning number
should be the banker number.
I suggest then the wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18 from here: http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de
http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de/systeme,5,5205,en.htm, the best
online database for lottery wheels.
Here is my own wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18, generated with Covermaster
1 3 10 30 32
1 26 27 31 32
1 29 32 33 34
2 7 8 9 10
2 8 12 13 15
3 10 26 27 29
3 10 31 33 34
4 6 14 19 25
4 14 17 18 20
5 11 16 21 23
5 11 22 24 28
6 13 17 18 20
7 9 12 13 15
10 26 29 30 31
13 16 21 23 28
16 21 22 23 24
17 18 19 20 25
26 27 30 33 34
Regards and best luck, Manfred
Post by Robert Perkis
Post by ecneps
Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Once you understand how these minimal wheels are made you
won't want to use the Mersey World wheel to play lotto.
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
The wheel is made by first making a 2if2of6in14 number
wheel in 7 lines. A second wheel of the same is made
by transposing the numbers from 01-14 to 15-28 so we
have two 2if2 wheels back to back that equal 2if3 when
combined. Then we make a 2if4of6in21 numbers 5 lines.
The idea is if 2 numbers don't land among the first
14 or the second 14 or 3 among the first 28 then 4
must land among the final 21 numbers.
As you can see there is no inter-connectivity between
these sub-wheels meaning they are stand alone. If you
wouldn't play these wheels independently due to the
low odds of all the winning numbers falling on only
one of these wheels, they you wouldn't want to play
them in combination either.
Here is a 100% 2if6in49numbers19lines without being
split into three pieces. Simply exchange my place
holder pointer numbers with your best picks.
1 7 8 14 32 33
1 7 9 14 28 47
2 15 18 34 38 45
2 17 20 21 22 38
3 11 25 27 29 42
3 12 24 25 36 40
3 25 30 31 37 39
4 5 13 15 16 48
4 15 21 35 46 48
5 13 16 21 35 46
6 10 23 26 41 44
6 19 23 41 43 49
8 9 28 32 33 47
10 19 26 43 44 49
11 12 24 27 31 39
11 27 30 36 37 40
12 24 29 30 37 42
17 18 20 22 34 45
29 31 36 39 40 42
end 19 lines 100% 2if6 coverage
Good luck to you.
Robert Perkis /http://www.lotto-logix.com/
Robert Perkis
2008-02-18 04:13:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by c
Thanks everyone for your help. The 2 games I am interested in are 5 of
39 and 6 of 39 (WI Supercash and MI Fantasy 5). I'm very noobie when it
comes to wheeling and wish I understood it as much as some of the people
here. I usually play based on hot and cold numbers, etc. Of the 2 games,
Supercash has been luckier for me, having hit 5 of 6 twice so far. I
only play Fantasy 5 when the Jackpot gets around $300K or higher.
Anyway the 19 line wheel is great for Supercash, and I thank you for
that, but I was looking for something similar for the pick 5 game.
Chris
Ok, first of all you don't want to use a 49 numbers wheel for
a 39 number game.

Here is a 2if5in39number non split wheel in 23 lines.

1 2 9 12 19
1 5 13 14 31
1 6 8 10 21
2 5 6 10 12
2 8 12 14 21
3 11 17 28 32
3 18 25 32 38
3 20 26 32 34
4 22 23 24 29
4 24 27 29 37
4 33 36 37 39
5 8 9 19 21
6 9 10 14 19
7 13 15 20 31
7 15 16 30 35
11 16 20 35 38
11 18 25 26 34
13 16 30 31 35
17 18 25 28 30
17 26 28 34 38
22 23 27 33 37
22 23 27 36 39
24 29 33 36 39
end 23 lines 100% 2if5in39numbers

Here is a non split 2if6in39number 12 lines wheel.

1 7 13 21 24 35
1 11 14 17 22 30
1 13 29 31 35 39
2 10 12 19 26 33
3 8 16 20 32 37
3 20 25 27 32 36
4 6 9 18 23 28
5 11 14 16 22 38
5 15 17 30 34 38
7 21 24 29 31 39
8 16 25 27 36 37
11 14 15 20 22 34
end 12 lines 100% 2if6in39 numbers.

Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheeling.html
Post by c
Post by s***@gmx.de
Hi Robert,
please note, the request of Chris is a pick 5 wheel with a 2 number
guarantee and not
a pick 6 wheel..
At a pick 5 wheel he can add a banker number for a pick 6 game or play
a pick 5 game.
Chris didn't say with how much number he will play and which game.
Here we need more input.
Assuming he will play a pick 6 game with a banker number, with a wheel
with 18 lines and
then he will need a 2 if 5 guarantee because the 6th winning number
should be the banker number.
I suggest then the wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18 from here: http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de
http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de/systeme,5,5205,en.htm, the best
online database for lottery wheels.
Here is my own wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18, generated with Covermaster
1 3 10 30 32
1 26 27 31 32
1 29 32 33 34
2 7 8 9 10
2 8 12 13 15
3 10 26 27 29
3 10 31 33 34
4 6 14 19 25
4 14 17 18 20
5 11 16 21 23
5 11 22 24 28
6 13 17 18 20
7 9 12 13 15
10 26 29 30 31
13 16 21 23 28
16 21 22 23 24
17 18 19 20 25
26 27 30 33 34
Regards and best luck, Manfred
Post by Robert Perkis
Post by ecneps
Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Once you understand how these minimal wheels are made you
won't want to use the Mersey World wheel to play lotto.
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
The wheel is made by first making a 2if2of6in14 number
wheel in 7 lines. A second wheel of the same is made
by transposing the numbers from 01-14 to 15-28 so we
have two 2if2 wheels back to back that equal 2if3 when
combined. Then we make a 2if4of6in21 numbers 5 lines.
The idea is if 2 numbers don't land among the first
14 or the second 14 or 3 among the first 28 then 4
must land among the final 21 numbers.
As you can see there is no inter-connectivity between
these sub-wheels meaning they are stand alone. If you
wouldn't play these wheels independently due to the
low odds of all the winning numbers falling on only
one of these wheels, they you wouldn't want to play
them in combination either.
Here is a 100% 2if6in49numbers19lines without being
split into three pieces. Simply exchange my place
holder pointer numbers with your best picks.
1 7 8 14 32 33
1 7 9 14 28 47
2 15 18 34 38 45
2 17 20 21 22 38
3 11 25 27 29 42
3 12 24 25 36 40
3 25 30 31 37 39
4 5 13 15 16 48
4 15 21 35 46 48
5 13 16 21 35 46
6 10 23 26 41 44
6 19 23 41 43 49
8 9 28 32 33 47
10 19 26 43 44 49
11 12 24 27 31 39
11 27 30 36 37 40
12 24 29 30 37 42
17 18 20 22 34 45
29 31 36 39 40 42
end 19 lines 100% 2if6 coverage
Good luck to you.
Robert Perkis /http://www.lotto-logix.com/
c
2008-02-18 06:54:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Robert Perkis
Post by c
Thanks everyone for your help. The 2 games I am interested in are 5 of
39 and 6 of 39 (WI Supercash and MI Fantasy 5). I'm very noobie when it
comes to wheeling and wish I understood it as much as some of the people
here. I usually play based on hot and cold numbers, etc. Of the 2 games,
Supercash has been luckier for me, having hit 5 of 6 twice so far. I
only play Fantasy 5 when the Jackpot gets around $300K or higher.
Anyway the 19 line wheel is great for Supercash, and I thank you for
that, but I was looking for something similar for the pick 5 game.
Chris
Ok, first of all you don't want to use a 49 numbers wheel for
a 39 number game.
Here is a 2if5in39number non split wheel in 23 lines.
1 2 9 12 19
1 5 13 14 31
1 6 8 10 21
2 5 6 10 12
2 8 12 14 21
3 11 17 28 32
3 18 25 32 38
3 20 26 32 34
4 22 23 24 29
4 24 27 29 37
4 33 36 37 39
5 8 9 19 21
6 9 10 14 19
7 13 15 20 31
7 15 16 30 35
11 16 20 35 38
11 18 25 26 34
13 16 30 31 35
17 18 25 28 30
17 26 28 34 38
22 23 27 33 37
22 23 27 36 39
24 29 33 36 39
end 23 lines 100% 2if5in39numbers
Here is a non split 2if6in39number 12 lines wheel.
1 7 13 21 24 35
1 11 14 17 22 30
1 13 29 31 35 39
2 10 12 19 26 33
3 8 16 20 32 37
3 20 25 27 32 36
4 6 9 18 23 28
5 11 14 16 22 38
5 15 17 30 34 38
7 21 24 29 31 39
8 16 25 27 36 37
11 14 15 20 22 34
end 12 lines 100% 2if6in39 numbers.
Robert Perkis / http://www.lotto-logix.com/wheeling.html
Thanks Robert, that's what I was looking for.

Chris

Robert Perkis
2008-02-18 03:45:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by s***@gmx.de
Hi Robert,
please note, the request of Chris is a pick 5 wheel with a 2
number guarantee and not a pick 6 wheel..
I was replying to the poster sending him to the Mersy World
Wheeling Challenge site which is Pick-6 and why that type
of wheel is not the best to use, same applies to Pick-5
Post by s***@gmx.de
At a pick 5 wheel he can add a banker number for a pick 6 game or play
a pick 5 game.
Chris didn't say with how much number he will play and which game.
Here we need more input.
Assuming he will play a pick 6 game with a banker number, with a wheel
with 18 lines and
then he will need a 2 if 5 guarantee because the 6th winning number
should be the banker number.
I suggest then the wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18 from here: http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de
http://www.weefs-lottosysteme.de/systeme,5,5205,en.htm, the best
online database for lottery wheels.
Here is my own wheel C(34,5,2,5)=18, generated with Covermaster
1 3 10 30 32
1 26 27 31 32
1 29 32 33 34
2 7 8 9 10
2 8 12 13 15
3 10 26 27 29
3 10 31 33 34
4 6 14 19 25
4 14 17 18 20
5 11 16 21 23
5 11 22 24 28
6 13 17 18 20
7 9 12 13 15
10 26 29 30 31
13 16 21 23 28
16 21 22 23 24
17 18 19 20 25
26 27 30 33 34
Nice wheel, guess I should have made Chris one, no need now
unless he comes back with a field size. RP
Post by s***@gmx.de
Regards and best luck, Manfred
Post by Robert Perkis
Post by ecneps
Post by c
A while back someone posted a pick 5 wheel that guaranteed a 2 hit in
something like 18 tickets, but I can't seem to find it. If someone has it
could they please repost it?
Thanks
Chris
TRY HERE
http://lottery.merseyworld.com/Wheel/wheel19.html
Once you understand how these minimal wheels are made you
won't want to use the Mersey World wheel to play lotto.
1 2 3 4 5 6
1 2 7 8 9 10
1 2 11 12 13 14
3 4 7 8 13 14
3 4 9 10 11 12
5 6 7 8 11 12
5 6 9 10 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20
15 16 21 22 23 24
15 16 25 26 27 28
17 18 21 22 27 28
17 18 23 24 25 26
19 20 21 22 25 26
19 20 23 24 27 28
29 30 31 32 33 34
35 36 37 38 39 40
41 42 43 44 45 46
41 42 43 47 48 49
44 45 46 47 48 49
The wheel is made by first making a 2if2of6in14 number
wheel in 7 lines. A second wheel of the same is made
by transposing the numbers from 01-14 to 15-28 so we
have two 2if2 wheels back to back that equal 2if3 when
combined. Then we make a 2if4of6in21 numbers 5 lines.
The idea is if 2 numbers don't land among the first
14 or the second 14 or 3 among the first 28 then 4
must land among the final 21 numbers.
As you can see there is no inter-connectivity between
these sub-wheels meaning they are stand alone. If you
wouldn't play these wheels independently due to the
low odds of all the winning numbers falling on only
one of these wheels, they you wouldn't want to play
them in combination either.
Here is a 100% 2if6in49numbers19lines without being
split into three pieces. Simply exchange my place
holder pointer numbers with your best picks.
1 7 8 14 32 33
1 7 9 14 28 47
2 15 18 34 38 45
2 17 20 21 22 38
3 11 25 27 29 42
3 12 24 25 36 40
3 25 30 31 37 39
4 5 13 15 16 48
4 15 21 35 46 48
5 13 16 21 35 46
6 10 23 26 41 44
6 19 23 41 43 49
8 9 28 32 33 47
10 19 26 43 44 49
11 12 24 27 31 39
11 27 30 36 37 40
12 24 29 30 37 42
17 18 20 22 34 45
29 31 36 39 40 42
end 19 lines 100% 2if6 coverage
Good luck to you.
Robert Perkis /http://www.lotto-logix.com/
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